@vGInfidel,
@-THE-RAY-,

The way I see it, IF we remove / change time trust, I did meant that it is easier to keep the price at a level we deem appropriate, BUT it also mean that the potential for profit from shorting is much lesser.

For example, without time trust, Wii Fit's price might not reach 17 Million (highest I remember), and that means you would not ever get opportunity to short it at that price point.

I believe the art is finding the right stock at the right time at the right price. I tend to make most of my money from shorting stock (future mostly, but also some GLS), so I don't see any problem with current setup. If I have a choice, I would rather short something at higher price point, and time trust is helping me get it (short at higher price).

@vGInfidel,

Shouldn't max holdings be a % of available stocks (ie volume), not % of net worth? Ie None of us can really OWN a "company" or "stock", but what if we could theoretically hold 35% of our net-worth, but 50-99.9% of a particular stock, at least enough to be the controlling interest, that stock is effectively dead- and definitely not an accurate valuation in most cases.

This isn't monopoly :) I apologize if I have missed something.

Anyway thanks for the explanation. Perhaps my observation doesn't have anything to due with Time Trusts, but I think the end game is the same.

@zeromous,

You can hold up to 35% of your networth in any one stock, so a 1.5million potential holding is nothing. I could sell about 10million's worth of stock and zukaus could sell over a 100million. If data becomes available in the distant future then of course the price will rise. All it is at the moment is one player deciding that 7k is a good price to sell at, whether they are creating a short position or lessening their long.

This is only a ceiling to players who are just investing their time trust in something, 20k a day and it would take a long time to break a million. If another high networth player comes in to take a position then that ceiling wont last long unless it is reinforced by its creator. To impose a limit on system stocks would go against the basic wisdom of the crowd prinicipals TSE is based on.

Just because a player is imposing a small ceiling, there is no need to worry.

@Mushashi,

I thought so, but doesn't TSE impose proper limits on holdings? I see just 1.5 million on the board, but there could be other players holding that much. What are the implications of this?

I wonder if the price will stay at 7K even if the real value could be in the 7.5 range. At this point its not worth the risk for everyone. No one is able to sell at 7k...

with no buyers at that price (since the 360's actual sales projections can't be much higher), it seems this stock is at some sort of impasse....

This doesn't seem to happen to game titles because there are so many variables, but I find it interesting to see this amidst the first "strong 3 -corporate player" generation, where sales are easier to predict.

Maybe holding limits for overall system stocks should be decreased. We only get an opportunity to see this type of situation every few years.

Isn't it really odd to have this stock ceiling at 7000DKP?

It must be that many players are unloading their stock on order, but it just seems like there's an awful lot of value on the board (~1.5 million DKP)
and very little incentive for TSE investors to purchase at that price.

Can 7000DKP be the end of the line for this stock? How does this come about?

Is this market manipulation by top users (with the most cash to hold up on an order), is this normal or is it simply a flaw in the TSE game?

It just seems like liquidity issue, where the only way for the water to flow is downhill.

It's a serious question guys. I'm not a trained financial analyst- my common sense gets me places in the market...but I've never seen this before.

Maybe someone can explain it to me what should happen here (if anything at all). Maybe someone has a real life analogue to this stock's situation....